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 Post subject: Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:15 pm 
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I did this with my RZV to get through..
Consider yourself lucky :shock:

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stick it on the frame in the same place as the RZ


Those labels are for 17 digit VIN export bikes which have the designated export prefixes. Canada being JYA52X00 6 FA00xxxx. Y for Yamaha, H for Honda, S for Suzuki etc. You would never encounter one with a 9 digit VIN, and as such should be a big red flag to Custom Officials. An RZV500 would never have that label. They may actually seize such vehicle as it's fraudlent misrepresentation. In country shananagin's are one thing, Customs is an entirely different thing with serious legal ramifications. A friends Countach was seized upon entry from Italy in a similar situation, and there was a BIG fine levied for him to get it back many month's later.


Yep, They didnt come with them, They could seize it, I have never had one seized, I have been dealing with customs for roughly 30 years of importing cars and bikes, Here and Ireland, Most Customs officers dont really care about bikes and small ticket items.
This is how I import them, This is how I will keep importing them.....


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Here and Ireland, Most Customs officers dont really care about bikes and small ticket items.


Here meaning California, Bay Area?

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They could seize it, I have never had one seized, I have been dealing with customs for roughly 30 years of importing cars and bikes, Here and Ireland, Most Customs officers dont really care about bikes and small ticket items.
This is how I import them, This is how I will keep importing them.....


Yes, but someone has to be first. How much are you willing to lose when taking that chance?

I have read stores about people in CA being pulled over by CHP and having their 2T bikes taken away. Those bikes were CA "legal". All it takes is one keen customs agent or one pissed of CHP officer and you are left with a big empty space that your bike used to occupy.

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I have heard them stories as well John, Exactly, It doesn't matter how the bike got here, One customs officer or CHP officer will turn a blind eye on them, The next officers might not.
Either way, however you get them into Cali, 2-strokes are not legal to be registered on the street, 25 year law or not, All it takes is one grumpy CHP officer and you're toast.


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I'm hoping that the knowledgeable CHP officers will retire soon. I know that back in the early 70's when they started imposing the smog laws. The muscle cars after 1964 were not able to register. At the same time folks that own the muscle cars went off to college and declare the cars non operational. A few years later government officials needed money because of Proposition 13. They saw that all of these cars were non operational and at the same time. The owners were out of college and main stream society. You guessed it the cars became legal. I'm hoping that as time goes by and California want more money. They will declare two strokes legal.

Now I heard this story back in the late 80's. Someone was bringing in an RZV500 from japan through the port in Washington. Customs told them that the bike was not allowed in the country and had a time frame to get it out. It was shipped to Vancouver. Then bike was transported to north of Michigan. Then the bike was ridden across the border by a Canadian tourist. Then the tourist walked back to Canada :razz: :cool: :cool: :smile:

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An end to this thread more or less...
The bike made it through customs on the Japanese title that showed first registration in 85.
Had some trouble through the license branch trying to get a title initially, as I claimed the bike as a 1984 (which it is)...
But the title showed a year of 85....I basically had to make up all new paperwork to make all the dates 1985...
The bike was finally titled, but when the title came in the mail there was another issue.
There has apparently never been anyone who has legally titled a RZV in Indiana before, and RZV as a model was not in their data base.
The title only showed the model as ....500.... WTF....
So I went back today, and I think I have it straightened out now, as they have added RZV500R to their data base, and a title should be on its way again. Although it will show it to be a 1985, it will also show it to be a RZV500R and it has the correct mileage, and 9 digit serial number listed also.

Close enough I guess....
Now to get it back in one piece and on the road.

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