How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importation

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How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importation

#1 Post by busa1300 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:32 pm

I will be bringing in a RZV in a month or two, and would like to know from those who have brought in complete bikes, how to prove manufacturer date. In order to prove age of bike. To my knowledge RZV's have no stickers on them. This needs to be turned in to the EPA/DOT so it can't be general knowledge from the internet, but documentation from Yamaha.
Do I just call Yamaha and hope for the best? I know this is an issue in the UK when bringing in bikes from other countries and they need exact dates as well.
All bikes I have brought in before were shipped in pieces to bypass this issue, as the bikes were not 25 years old yet.
78 GS1000E
80 KD80
82 Katana
84 RZ350
84 RZV500R
86 GSXR1100
86 1100 sportster
88 FZR1000
89 RGV250 VJ21 SP
90 RGV250 VJ22 SP
91 TZR250 3XV2 SP
96 RGV250 VJ23 T SP
99 RS250
02 Hayabusa
16 KTM 390 Duke
17 KTM 1290 Superduke GT
21 Aprilia RSV4 1100

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#2 Post by tacky1 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:38 pm

I stuck one of these on my frame in the same place as the RZ500 has theirs, Worked for me..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-RZV500- ... 1438.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
1981 RD350LC
1981 RD350LC Hybrid
2009 CR500AF Supermoto 250X
2007 CR500AF 250X
1988 YSR50 (2)
1989 VFR750R RC30
1984 GPZ750 Turbo

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#3 Post by busa1300 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:38 pm

The bike is coming from Japan,
I will not be able to get my hands on it till DOT/EPA/Customs clears the bike.
78 GS1000E
80 KD80
82 Katana
84 RZ350
84 RZV500R
86 GSXR1100
86 1100 sportster
88 FZR1000
89 RGV250 VJ21 SP
90 RGV250 VJ22 SP
91 TZR250 3XV2 SP
96 RGV250 VJ23 T SP
99 RS250
02 Hayabusa
16 KTM 390 Duke
17 KTM 1290 Superduke GT
21 Aprilia RSV4 1100

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#4 Post by tacky1 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:18 pm

I didnt need it at customs, I only needed it at CHP vin check, Same with my RG500, Customs never looked for it,
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
1981 RD350LC
1981 RD350LC Hybrid
2009 CR500AF Supermoto 250X
2007 CR500AF 250X
1988 YSR50 (2)
1989 VFR750R RC30
1984 GPZ750 Turbo

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#5 Post by busa1300 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:24 pm

Did you bring your bikes in from Japan?
78 GS1000E
80 KD80
82 Katana
84 RZ350
84 RZV500R
86 GSXR1100
86 1100 sportster
88 FZR1000
89 RGV250 VJ21 SP
90 RGV250 VJ22 SP
91 TZR250 3XV2 SP
96 RGV250 VJ23 T SP
99 RS250
02 Hayabusa
16 KTM 390 Duke
17 KTM 1290 Superduke GT
21 Aprilia RSV4 1100

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#6 Post by tacky1 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:02 pm

Australia
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
1981 RD350LC
1981 RD350LC Hybrid
2009 CR500AF Supermoto 250X
2007 CR500AF 250X
1988 YSR50 (2)
1989 VFR750R RC30
1984 GPZ750 Turbo

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#7 Post by giron » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:10 am

You need 17 digit VIN number. It has to say it meets the DOT (Department of Transportation) regulation. Now as far as calling the manufacturer (Yamaha) go ahead and call them. You will see first hand how fast they will hang up on you. The RZV500 was not intended for the United States and U.S.A Yamaha wants nothing to do with it. Now if you are in California. I will give you a heads up. Go to the California DMV site and down load the forms. You do not need to deal with the CHP. You will read that "ANY" law enforcement can inspect and sign off on the VIN. Now I hear that other states will let you register the bike, but California is a pain. Now when you try to register the bike. You need a title from Japan that will set off an alarm. Again study the DMV site and decide how you want to do it.
1991 3MATZR250SP
!993 3XVTZR250SP
1996 RGV250(Lucky Strike)
1994 MC28SP
1995 MC28SP
1996 MC28SP
1985 RG500(Walter Wolfe)
1984 IT490
1985 RZV500R
1985 NS400R
1985 NS400R
1997 VFR750
1992 FZR1000
RGV400
TZR500
TZR350
1990 RZ350
1971 Porsche911S

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#8 Post by busa1300 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:24 am

I am in Indiana, and the bike is still in Japan. My bike will have to go through customs as a complete bike.
As a complete bike, it will have to be viewed by the EPA/DOT, as it is up to them to let me have the bike in the country on the street.
If a bike is 25 years old or older, the bike is completely exempt from DOT/EPA rules.
So I need to prove to them the date the bike was built, in order for them to release the bike to me, and give me paperwork for my DMV to title it.
I need to know how to prove when the bike was made by the manufacturer.
This has been done, I was hoping someone has used this process.

I have a number of my 2 strokes with less than 17 digits.
The RZV has only 9
78 GS1000E
80 KD80
82 Katana
84 RZ350
84 RZV500R
86 GSXR1100
86 1100 sportster
88 FZR1000
89 RGV250 VJ21 SP
90 RGV250 VJ22 SP
91 TZR250 3XV2 SP
96 RGV250 VJ23 T SP
99 RS250
02 Hayabusa
16 KTM 390 Duke
17 KTM 1290 Superduke GT
21 Aprilia RSV4 1100

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#9 Post by giron » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:59 am

If you have a Japanese title. At least it will show when it was first register in japan.
1991 3MATZR250SP
!993 3XVTZR250SP
1996 RGV250(Lucky Strike)
1994 MC28SP
1995 MC28SP
1996 MC28SP
1985 RG500(Walter Wolfe)
1984 IT490
1985 RZV500R
1985 NS400R
1985 NS400R
1997 VFR750
1992 FZR1000
RGV400
TZR500
TZR350
1990 RZ350
1971 Porsche911S

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#10 Post by busa1300 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:32 pm

It will have a Japanese title for it, might have to have it translated depending on the process...
I'll have to look at my Japanese VJ23 title and see if it shows age of bike, or just when the title was produced.
78 GS1000E
80 KD80
82 Katana
84 RZ350
84 RZV500R
86 GSXR1100
86 1100 sportster
88 FZR1000
89 RGV250 VJ21 SP
90 RGV250 VJ22 SP
91 TZR250 3XV2 SP
96 RGV250 VJ23 T SP
99 RS250
02 Hayabusa
16 KTM 390 Duke
17 KTM 1290 Superduke GT
21 Aprilia RSV4 1100

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#11 Post by Questo vecchio rz » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:28 pm

Here, Is some good reading, try asking these guys. They are now importing (legally) most grey market bike's that meet the criteria. Perhaps for a fee they may be able to handle, or advise your process.

http://www.moto2imports.com/information/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Banshee (Baja) Full Tilt desert race bike
Royal Enfield 500
96 GSXR SRAD, Future Yoshimura TT-F1 Lucky Strike rep.
85 custom Tri-Z
RZ421/YZR track bike(project)
86 VFR750 Flying Fred Merkel replica (project)

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#12 Post by giron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:10 pm

Read
" U.S. Customs Clearance & Titling" on the link provided by Questo. What happens if it doesn't meet "DOT and EPA"

Then what happens to the bike. I hope folks in this forum do the home work.
1991 3MATZR250SP
!993 3XVTZR250SP
1996 RGV250(Lucky Strike)
1994 MC28SP
1995 MC28SP
1996 MC28SP
1985 RG500(Walter Wolfe)
1984 IT490
1985 RZV500R
1985 NS400R
1985 NS400R
1997 VFR750
1992 FZR1000
RGV400
TZR500
TZR350
1990 RZ350
1971 Porsche911S

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#13 Post by MK » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:33 pm

Wouldn't a letter from Yamaha do the job stating that sales were ceased about the end of the 90's? (In Germany it was sold 1984-1987)
If math serves me right this should be more than 25 years ago ...
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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#14 Post by giron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:42 pm

Martin

This is U.S.A and California is very tricky
1991 3MATZR250SP
!993 3XVTZR250SP
1996 RGV250(Lucky Strike)
1994 MC28SP
1995 MC28SP
1996 MC28SP
1985 RG500(Walter Wolfe)
1984 IT490
1985 RZV500R
1985 NS400R
1985 NS400R
1997 VFR750
1992 FZR1000
RGV400
TZR500
TZR350
1990 RZ350
1971 Porsche911S

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Re: How to obtain a MSO / exact manufacture date for importa

#15 Post by Smoker » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:24 am

busa1300 wrote:Do I just call Yamaha and hope for the best?
I previously told you, that's exactly what I did.

Had my manufacturer's letter in two days.

This shouldn't even be an issue.

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