silverstrom wrote:My background is aviation. Fighter jets and helicopters. I've worked with some pretty bright people, but I've talked to some engineers that were just clueless. Don't confuse a degree and actual ability. Many people do
Amen brother, I've worked with same, and doctors & lawyers whom are as helpless & clueless as infants when out of their element, and a few that makes you wonder how on Gods earth they manage to have jobs in their field to begin with, its truly mind boggling.
giron wrote:As far are airplanes are concerned military?
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Okay..you asked for it. HMmmm? Clue No.1= "fighter jets".
RuZty wrote:Giron, I don't know what your background is but you talk about the engineers at the Japanese factories with god-like reverence as if they are the only people in the world who understand how things work.
You can add RGV Steve & Brian to that list...Now I'd like to be crystal clear on this: I totally respect their abilities and knowledge & experiance and invaluable service they have provided to many here, but it does get a little redundant. I'd like to see some Giron posts without mention of them...in almost every post.
We Get It!
(Giron, dont take offense)
, just having fun. You and others have helped many here, thanks for that and helping maintain discussions. Like we've mentioned, some think it can be done, some have done it ( in diffrent ways...lol) I'm no engineer , I'm smarter than some, but certainlly NOT as smart as others, I too am amazed at how brilliant some indaviduals are, truly on a diffrent level of understanding and a privlige to spend time in discussions with. As time and technology marches on , some of us regular mortals are able to out think some of our predecessors. But credit is due to those who paved the way for the rest if us, and its always too easy to critique or reenvision anothers work in whatever field, only after they did all the braincrunching 1st.
silverstrom wrote:giron wrote:John lets get back to the RZ500 and RG500 hanging from the cylinders. Why are they breaking?
The RG500 is a square 4. Perhaps that has something to do with the issues there. I've seen several RGV500s and haven't seen a failure yet. Then again, I don't get out much. I'll ask Andrew about it. He has experience with the RGV500 conversion
I have 25 year collection of motorcycle publications & books and therein are probably 50 RGV/RG500 conversions,
I'd say there far more common than the TZR, but to be honest I cant remember which ones cradle the motor or mount/hang from the the frame, either by cylinders or engine case. Like many of you, I surf the net more than I should and the news of frame cracking is news to me. I've had a few RZ350s & the frames just crack without any help at all...lol
It would be IMO intresting if Silverstrom was able to provide some constructive information from ATR/Alien for the sake of discussion, on some aspects or details of various approaches. NOT to fuel any arguments. Were big boys & can bury hatchets and make up our own minds of what path ourselves or others choose.
Good thread started here, good discussion.