Greetings, a Gamma Story and Help Needed

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RZtuner
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Re: Greetings, a Gamma Story and Help Needed

#31 Post by RZtuner » Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:06 pm

Nice bike. The 17 inch wheels are a huge improvement over that horrible 16 inch front wheel. Make the bike handle properly. Ride it and enjoy it.
Walter Wolf was Austrian BTW and came to Canada when he was 19 and made his fortune in the oil business. He has a farm just outside of Kamloops. The Walter Wolf model sold in Canada was ONLY a paint job, they are all RG500's no matter what color you have. The last 99 made were assigned that paint job, that's all. Other than that they are no different.
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#32 Post by giron » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:58 pm

you are correct when it comes to the Walter wolf model. Its nothing but the paint and they are no different than any other RG500 except the 99 frames and that's what brings a higher price.
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#33 Post by ns86 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:52 pm

They didn't even have the WW instrument cluster like all the JDM WW's including the 250's like my RG250 MK4. Paint job and gold rims, that's it.
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1992 RGV500 WW ATR
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#34 Post by tacky1 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:47 pm

I have a JDM and I prefer it to the painted up Canadian models. Proper WW clocks and keys. Nicer stripes as well. Not as busy.
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1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
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#35 Post by giron » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:15 pm

The latest posts are correct. I have one of the 99 frames. I opted to make updates to my Walter wolf. Now I save all the ordinal parts. I used the Japanese Walter wolf parts such as gauges, harness, gas tank and wheels are gold but not the stock wheels. GSXR wheels
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1984 IT490
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#36 Post by ns86 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:54 pm

So no WW keys for the Canadian version? I personally do not like the Graphic triangle style on the Canadian version. Any other WW I find very nice.
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1992 RGV500 LS
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#37 Post by RZtuner » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:01 pm

No, the Canadian bikes are just a paint job. Stock white gauges etc. Stock Suzuki key..... of course you could pay several hundred dollars for a WW key blank if that's what floats your boat :-) They do come up sometimes.
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#38 Post by silverstrom » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:18 pm

It's a lot of fuss over paint and a number.

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#39 Post by giron » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:25 pm

I was very fortunate when I bought the harness, gas tank. sending unit and gauges it came with a matching Walter wolf key matching locks.
I’m in the process of buying an RG400 different paint scheme Walter wolf from Japan
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#40 Post by 2strklvr » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:38 pm

If I'm not mistaken what the Canadian WW bikes make have "lacked" in fancy ignition keys and spiffy gauges they more than made up for by being the only stock non-restricted Walter Wolf RG's - with a claimed 95 ponies at the brochure. HP sauce beats farkles every time in my books - so Canada for the win.

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#41 Post by tacky1 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:21 pm

2strklvr wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:38 pm If I'm not mistaken what the Canadian WW bikes make have "lacked" in fancy ignition keys and spiffy gauges they more than made up for by being the only stock non-restricted Walter Wolf RG's - with a claimed 95 ponies at the brochure. HP sauce beats farkles every time in my books - so Canada for the win.
All RGs have the same motor, same carbs, exhausts and same power, The WW in Canada was just a pint job, Nothing else...
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
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1981 RD350LC Hybrid
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2007 CR500AF 250X
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#42 Post by silverstrom » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:17 am

So the JDM RG500 wasn't restricted? That would be unusual. Or were the JDM bikes all 400s?

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#43 Post by tacky1 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:38 am

silverstrom wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:17 am So the JDM RG500 wasn't restricted? That would be unusual. Or were the JDM bikes all 400s?
Sorry, you're right John, The exhaust on the JDM 500 was the same as the 400 exhaust, they were restricted through the exhaust and slightly different jetting, The rest of the spec was the same. Swap the exhaust and jets and good to go
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
1981 RD350LC
1981 RD350LC Hybrid
2009 CR500AF Supermoto 250X
2007 CR500AF 250X
1988 YSR50 (2)
1989 VFR750R RC30
1984 GPZ750 Turbo

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#44 Post by tacky1 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:43 am

Oh, 95HP Canadian WW was crank HP, All RGs have roughly 95HP at the Crank, 70 something at the rear wheel, Its called marketing.
1985 RZv500
1984 RZ500 Hybrid
1986 RG500 Walter Wolf
1986 RG500 Skoal Bandit
1984 RZ350
1984 RZ350 Hybrid
1981 RD350LC
1981 RD350LC Hybrid
2009 CR500AF Supermoto 250X
2007 CR500AF 250X
1988 YSR50 (2)
1989 VFR750R RC30
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#45 Post by silverstrom » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:23 am

tacky1 wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:43 am Oh, 95HP Canadian WW was crank HP, All RGs have roughly 95HP at the Crank, 70 something at the rear wheel, Its called marketing.
There has always been a huge debate about HP between the RG500 and RZ500. The big Gamma advertised 95 HP compared to 88 for the big RZ. A friend of mine dyno tested a new RG500 and a new RZ500. The RZ500 was slightly ahead of the RG500, with both being near 72 HP. While HP is nice, weighing 58 pounds less sets the RG500 apart.

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