Engine stalling

General forum on engines, transmissions, gearing and modifications to each

Moderator: rztom

Post Reply
Message
Author
Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Engine stalling

#1 Post by Ange » Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:39 am

Hi guys need some help.
Bike starts fine (first kick)but will idle for a minute and then stall. I’ll try starting it again but won’t start ,but if I turn the key off/on it will start fine and idle for a minute and then stall again. First thought was fuel running out but then why does turning the key off/on make it start again.
Any help would greatly appreciated.

Linx
Posts: 169
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:23 pm
Location: Stratford Upon Avon UK

Re: Engine stalling

#2 Post by Linx » Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:12 am

Hi Ange,
Does this technique work every time? What happens if you ride it?
:smt006 Current Bikes
1984 47X RD500LC, 2018 Triumph Speed Triple RS, 1999 Honda CB600F Hornet
Past Bikes Include
RD250LC, RD350YPVS LC2 Race Bike, RD350F2, 1976 CB400F

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#3 Post by Ange » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:45 am

I can’t ride it because it keeps stalling,even if I hold the revs higher it still dies out

lost1750GTV
- - - - -
- - - - -
Posts: 609
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 5:22 pm

Re: Engine stalling

#4 Post by lost1750GTV » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:13 am

Does it die sooner with higher revs?
May be a kinked fuel line or air in line due to routing.
The key thing is likely just a time factor.
As always I could be wrong, but thats what I'd look for first.

User avatar
TwoStrokeNut
Posts: 585
Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:12 pm
Location: Florida,USA

Re: Engine stalling

#5 Post by TwoStrokeNut » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:57 pm

Might try running it with the fuel cap off just to rule out a tank venting issue.

Restarting after cycling ignition is a strange one. It seems a heat related failure in the CDI would take longer to cool down and allow a restart.
Project bike links: NS400R - TRIPLE THREAT // RZ500 - MOSQUITO CONTROL BIKE // RZ350 - REVIVAL
'72 H1-500/'75 H1-500/'85 RZ350/'85 NS400R/'01 DR650/'07 FJR1300/'18 Tiger 1200

User avatar
phildu31
Posts: 435
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:49 pm
Location: Toulouse France

Re: Engine stalling

#6 Post by phildu31 » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:10 pm

Looks like a faulty CDI. Check if you have sparks when this happens.

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#7 Post by Ange » Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:24 am

Hi guys thanks for your reply’s
I did find that it did stall quicker when revving
I did try running with the fuel cap off didn’t help l also tried running with the tank up and still stalled and it is wired that once it stalls I can kick it 10 times and won’t start but if I turn key off/on it starts first kick but then stalls.the cdi is new zeeltronic if that could be the cause.

User avatar
phildu31
Posts: 435
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:49 pm
Location: Toulouse France

Re: Engine stalling

#8 Post by phildu31 » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:04 am

Check if you have sparks when this happens.

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#9 Post by Ange » Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:19 am

What’s the best way to check for spark

MK
Posts: 487
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:54 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Engine stalling

#10 Post by MK » Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:19 am

How's your battery?
If you have a Zeeltronic, it'll require a stable 12V supply.
As soon as voltage drops below some 8-10V, the ignition won't work and that'll stall the bike.
Weak batteries drop voltage quickly when loaded and recover when disconnected. That would match your observation.
PV operation and lights is such kind of load to battery.
You may switch that off or disconnect for testing.

Simply measure the battery voltage at the next try and you'll see immediately.
A working charging system should have 13-14.5V with a running engine.
Bye
Martin

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#11 Post by Ange » Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:13 pm

The battery is 3 years old and I put it on trickle charger before. But in the three years it hasn’t seen much riding only a lot of starting. Even thou it charged up ok could it still be faulty. Thanks for your reply.

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#12 Post by Ange » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:29 am

Hi guys it’s been awhile but I finally done some tests on the bike.
Put a new battery but still have the problem. What I have noticed is that when the bike stalls it has no spark but if I turn the key off then on again it has spark again. What could be causing this. I have a new zeeltronic cdi which was working before. Tia.

Ange
Posts: 46
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:56 am

Re: Engine stalling

#13 Post by Ange » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:35 am

phildu31 wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:10 pm Looks like a faulty CDI. Check if you have sparks when this happens.
Finally checked the bike and once the bike stalls there is no spark but then if. I turn the key off and on it has spark again could this be the cdi
I have a new zeeltronic cdi which was working before,
Could it need resetting.

Strokeofgenius
Posts: 63
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:00 am
Location: Ireland

Re: Engine stalling

#14 Post by Strokeofgenius » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:24 am

Unlikely but could be the ignition switch itself,I have had a 350 one cause this fault.Easy enough to rule out.
Please keep diesels from our roads

Post Reply