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nath
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#31 Post by nath » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:38 pm

Thanks Steve :)

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#32 Post by pinkster » Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:44 am

have you thought of using one each of the 1007 and 1008 (30 x 48 x 12) as the thinner bearing on the top would give that bit more thread?
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#33 Post by nath » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:05 am

I found these on ebay;

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tapered-roller-bear ... dZViewItem

should be perfect and I can just order 2.

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#34 Post by pinkster » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:41 am

smurph wrote:The R1 stem is a little short. The thinner the bearings, the better for putting R1 forks on the RZ. 1mm thicker bearings == .080" less thread engagement for the stem nut. Of course, one could cut a pocket into the top triple clamp to counter sink the nut a little. But if you want the project to remain easy, then go with 2 of the standard RZ lower taper bearings. (Or a kit that has two of these bearings, if available.)

You will need a 5mm spacer below the lower bearing on the stem regardless of the bearing thickness. This is because the RZ has a sleeve on the steering neck that hangs down 4.5mm that houses the original lower seal. You cannot press a bearing flush to the lower R1 triple because of this. The spacer is mandatory unless you want to cut the steering neck down.

Steve
For the above reason as pointed out by Smurph I will be trying the thinner bearing for the top when I start my conversion.
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#35 Post by nath » Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:52 am

I'm just at the stage of removing the ball race from the R1 stem, is the only way to do this to press the stem out of the bottom clamp, remove the race and press it back in ?

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#36 Post by RuZty » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:47 am

That's the way I do it. There's a snap ring on the bottom of the stem to locate it when you press it back in.

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#37 Post by nath » Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:44 am

I need to replace the dust seals that came with the All Balls bearings, any idea where I might find some ?

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#38 Post by Gene » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:27 am

I got my bearings by calling

ALL BALLS
Power Sport Industries, Inc.
P.O. Box 437
New Berlinville,PA 19545-0437
610-473-0505

Taper Bearing 30-48-12 part#99-3515
Seal# 33-1006
There is a kit with these bearings seals in it I can not find bill with this
# on it. I used these bearings and seals on a 07 R6s set of forks. Hope this helps.

Gene

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#39 Post by Whymee » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:36 pm

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on purchasing a R1 / FZ600 suspension upgrade. From what I have read I need the 98-01 R1 fork.

What is everybody using for wheels? And do your f&r wheels match?

Just curious....

Smurph is it possible I can call you & chew some fat? I need some direction... :smt003

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#40 Post by ricar » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:18 pm

Looking for the OD of the bearings needed. Or the ID of the RZ head tube.. I don't want to take the bike apart untill I have all the peices. May still have time to ride before the snow flies!
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#41 Post by RZ350Street » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:20 pm

Well, I about to do this swap myself, just assembling the final parts. For the bearings, just call ALL BALLS, they are awesome.

I have a question about tires though, what size do you guys run up front?

Stock for the RZ is
Front tyre dimensions: 90/90-18 51H
Rear tyre dimensions: 110/80-18 58H

Stock for the R1 is
Front tyre dimensions: 120/70-ZR17
Rear tyre dimensions: 190/50-ZR17

I thought about running stock R1 tire size, but that would make my front tire bigger than my rear (stock RZ rear end) and I thought that would upset things. What tire size do you recommend running up front?

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#42 Post by RZ350Street » Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:02 am

Well, I'm about halfway through the swap. I got the old front end of, and the new forks mounted. The only thing left to install is the upper triple tree, then I can mount the wheel and start sorting out the connections from the various controls.

I have to say, the swap is going smoother than expected. I hope to take it for a ride tomorrow, and I'm pumped.

To everyone considering this, DO IT, its way simpler than you think it will be.

Kevin
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#43 Post by jimrd » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:11 pm

i have kept the R1 tire on the bike for now

like you said looks out of place..

What are doing for a speedo set up...

i have to look into this next on my bike
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#44 Post by RZ350Street » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:18 pm

For speedo right now I just have a GPS mounted on my handlebars. I need to move the dash though, as the bars don't quite clear the speedo and temp guage at the ends of their travel. I'm thinking going to R1 dash soon, depends on money flow.

I found a new tire in R1 size for cheap so thats whats on mine too, doesn't look like it'll be a problem, but haven't ridden it yet.

Here's a few pics
http://dragondungbar.tripod.com/100_0513.JPG
http://dragondungbar.tripod.com/100_0514.JPG
http://dragondungbar.tripod.com/100_0515.JPG
http://dragondungbar.tripod.com/100_0516.JPG

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#45 Post by alexandros » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:10 pm

question. what did the different forks weigh? stock and r1? I am contemplating an upgrade and have been told it adds weight. I mean I will eventually find out but does anyonw know?

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