Mikes XS emulators in stock RZ forks- who has done this?

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#16 Post by jord-rz » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:57 am

ya, thats what i read lastnight. but the problem is I have no rebound damping. so I wanna try leaving it in. in those instructions it also says to fill all the rebound holes and drill a new 2 mm hole for rebound. my rods doesnt have all the holes filled, just the small ones. the stock rebound is 4mm, which is bigger than what it should be. But I should still have some kind of rebound dampening, and there is none. so If I leave that inner rod in, I dont wanna drill into the bottom of it when I drill the new compression hole, which is what will happen if I drill it in the same spot as the modified rod
85' rz350 - R6 rear shock, progessive springs & race tech emulator, Fork brace, steering damper, 01' r1 front brakes, GPL Racing ported cylinders & milled head, GPL Racing gp exhaust, V-force reeds, reed spacers, 28mm PWK'S, Zeeltronic pcdi -10v

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#17 Post by RuZty » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:33 am

When I did mine they just sat right on the damper rod, no spacer required, but I did the full damper rod modifications as per the instructions.

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#18 Post by jord-rz » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:12 am

And do you have good rebound dampening? I just picked up some braising rods lastnight so I'm gonna fill in the stock 4 mm hole and drill the new 2 mm hole. Also I was looking at the check valve at the bottom of the inner fork tube. (which is more like a labrynth seal) does anyone know much about these? The inner sleeve can move around, so if the holes line up on the fork tube and inner sleeve it doesn't make any seal on the rebound stroke. I figure I should set the hole in the sleeve 180* from the hole in the fork tube but regardless where I set the holes I don't think it ever actually seals fully. I donno if anyone know what I'm talking about lol
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#19 Post by Cheech » Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:13 pm

From the instructions, you have to punch out the inner piece from the damper rod before drilling them. Look at this thread and tobster's post for the Race Tech instructions:

http://www.rzrd500.com/phpBB3/viewtopic ... highlight=[/quote]

In the above link Evans provided the last post by 'Bare' he nailed it.

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#20 Post by aaronmvrider » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:43 pm

any updates on forks.... :smt006 :smt006
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#21 Post by Evans Ward » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:51 am

aaronmvrider wrote:any updates on forks.... :smt006 :smt006
Not on mine Aaron as I'm still accumulating all the needed parts. It's also brutally hot down here so will wait 1-2 mths down the road to do this job.
84 RZ350-Toomeys,SCR milled head, stk 26 carbs,300 M, 35 P, stock regrooved needles AS 2.5 turns out,stk air box,Banshee reeds Zeel non-progr CDI,TSRL Program YPVS,alum rad,R6 shock,GV emulators w/RT springs,fork brace,Shindy steering damper.

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#22 Post by Cheech » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:14 am

I finished up mine no problem other than I would have opened up the top of the inner rebound tube a bit more, I only took enough material for a snug press fit and when installing springs if you knocked emulator out of the tube which I did a bear to press back in when down the hole. There is no need for press only require cover the tube which would be no problem I press fitted the smaller inner ridge on the emulator sure looked good! I went initial 2.5 turns on emulators and 15 wt oil. They feel great but I can't give a road report because my motor on the work bench so this update kinda worthless . :smt001

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#23 Post by aaronmvrider » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:06 am

any updates... i am thinking of just installing 8kg springs no emulators etc...
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#24 Post by jord-rz » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:54 am

Ya I fixed what was wrong with mine, the person who installed my emulators didnt fill in all the rebound holes. so instead of having one 2mm hole there was two 4mm holes. I filled them in and drilled the 2mm hole and it was much better. I also have progressive springs with 10 mm preload spacers, I put 5 turns of preload on the emulator spring and am running 15w oil @ 155mm height. Much better feedback on the track
85' rz350 - R6 rear shock, progessive springs & race tech emulator, Fork brace, steering damper, 01' r1 front brakes, GPL Racing ported cylinders & milled head, GPL Racing gp exhaust, V-force reeds, reed spacers, 28mm PWK'S, Zeeltronic pcdi -10v

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#25 Post by Cheech » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:50 pm

Mine installed fine but I screwed up on adjustment put in to much preload and 20wt oil so way harsh. Not easily adjustable W/O pulling apart, oh well.

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#26 Post by Evans Ward » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:32 pm

Has anyone tried the Mikes XS emulators yet? I'm still accumulating parts so no progress on my part yet. I'd be curious to know the turns out with the Mikes product.
84 RZ350-Toomeys,SCR milled head, stk 26 carbs,300 M, 35 P, stock regrooved needles AS 2.5 turns out,stk air box,Banshee reeds Zeel non-progr CDI,TSRL Program YPVS,alum rad,R6 shock,GV emulators w/RT springs,fork brace,Shindy steering damper.

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#27 Post by Cheech » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:49 pm

Evans Ward wrote:Has anyone tried the Mikes XS emulators yet? I'm still accumulating parts so no progress on my part yet. I'd be curious to know the turns out with the Mikes product.
Evans, mine are Mikes. I'm confident they will work fine once I get preload on emulators sorted. The design is solid and stupid simple so I don't see a problem there. Once sorted I will report.

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#28 Post by Evans Ward » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:00 am

Cheech wrote:
Evans Ward wrote:Has anyone tried the Mikes XS emulators yet? I'm still accumulating parts so no progress on my part yet. I'd be curious to know the turns out with the Mikes product.
Evans, mine are Mikes. I'm confident they will work fine once I get preload on emulators sorted. The design is solid and stupid simple so I don't see a problem there. Once sorted I will report.
Great info to know Cheech! I will be picking your brain for advice! :smt002 :smt004
84 RZ350-Toomeys,SCR milled head, stk 26 carbs,300 M, 35 P, stock regrooved needles AS 2.5 turns out,stk air box,Banshee reeds Zeel non-progr CDI,TSRL Program YPVS,alum rad,R6 shock,GV emulators w/RT springs,fork brace,Shindy steering damper.

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#29 Post by steveloomis » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:12 am

I have been down the same route, wondering if the less expensive "Mikes" are a good option. I too will wait for your input as to how they work as opposed to the very and way too expensive other brand....
'81 RD350LC hybrid w/84 RZ engine. Zeel, Old style Toomeys, Yboot and filter 420 main 22.5 pilot, Air screw 2.5 turns out, DJ needle 2nd from top, Canadian VM26 carbs.
'85 KR/RZ US. Tank is seeping causing a blister in paint.....

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#30 Post by evansje1 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:25 pm

Evans, take pictures man...I'm thinking my winter project this year will be to upgrade the 1973 RD350 (you know the magic bike) with RaceTech fork springs, those emulator gizmos, new rear shocks, BT45's and tighen up the swing arm with bronze bushings. The little bike should then disappear even faster :smt002
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