Bad Crash

[whyzee79]

Do you find the leatt restrictive for the street as far as being able to turn and see traffic? I still don't use anything on the street but am interested in the street product. You are the only one that I have heard use it. What do you think? Sounds like it is a pain to fit. There are other products for dirt riding now and I might look into doing one of those as well. My dirt Leatt is too restrictive for the street.

[Smoker]

Do you find the leatt restrictive for the street as far as being able to turn and see traffic? I still don't use anything on the street but am interested in the street product. You are the only one that I have heard use it. What do you think? Sounds like it is a pain to fit. There are other products for dirt riding now and I might look into doing one of those as well. My dirt Leatt is too restrictive for the street.

When the Leatt is set up properly, there is no restriction at all. Doesn't affect turning the head in any way.

The helmet never touches the collar until there is no more movement in the neck. When the neck touches the Leatt, the neck can't move any more without injury.

The Leatt doesn't affect side to side movement. Just flexion and extension.

What's the model number of your Leatt?

[Smoker]

Hi Smoker,

Sorry to hear, hope you will recover quickly. If you have a concussion, take it very seriously. No alcohol, no computer, no reading, no driving, complete physical and neurological rest for 1-2 weeks, then increase load very gradually.

I've had a concussion last December and received bad recommendations from doctor (he was not knowledgeable of concussions) and my state went down badly after the accident until I saw a physio and sport doctor, then I got the right info and I started improving. Unfortunately, with concussions, its eighter 1 month or very long to recover. I am on the long road (still today). All that to say, careful with concussions.

I'm glad you got some good advice that helped.

I've been working with doctors for over 38 years and I've found they have many different opinions and beliefs. I understand how they're educated and how they work - and since I do anesthesia, I've also had to go through a shitload of formal education. My opinion is that I need to figure out what is best for myself - then, find a doc that will provide the treatment I want. Then, the end result is on me, for better or worse.

My advise is to read medical journal articles related to your problem. That's where docs get the info to back up their practice. When a non-medical person starts quoting journal articles, any doc will be on his/her toes and definitly treat the non-medical person like a G.

[hondaror]

I don't think so. My father's a doctor. You just have to find the right one for you.

[Smoker]

I don't think so. My father's a doctor. You just have to find the right one for you.

You don't think what?

What does your father being a doctor have to do with selecting an appropriate physician for treatment?

How would you find the right one, if you don't know anything about the latest recommended treatments?

[hondaror]

Your last line. They wouldn't be on their toes for anyone unless they were up to no good. They might be mildly amused, possibly impressed. Doctors are just people. It's good to read up on your situation and be informed, that's for sure. None of them will ever treat you like a 'G'. Like any profession there are good and bad. The tough part is getting past the bad to the good. Specialist recommendations are key. It really helps to know a couple of doctors to get the input on who is really good out there.
I guess I'm spoiled due to my in. Having my father as a doctor makes my life a hell of a lot easier for advice and direction. He can quickly steer me clear of the quacks...and there are a ton of them, crooks too. Keep up with the education in the field you need, and good luck with landing the right guy to help you.

[Smoker]

Do you find the leatt restrictive for the street as far as being able to turn and see traffic? I still don't use anything on the street but am interested in the street product. You are the only one that I have heard use it. What do you think? Sounds like it is a pain to fit. There are other products for dirt riding now and I might look into doing one of those as well. My dirt Leatt is too restrictive for the street.

I said that I'm using a Leatt GPX 6.5 Carbon on the street. This is a MX neck protector:



The Leatt street neck protector looks like this:

[rzrej]

Very sorry to hear of your neck issues Smoker, all the best and I hope you get some good/better treatment. Concussions are no joke for sure. In January of 2013, my gf fell backwards on an icy sidewalk. She had a very bad concussion and wound up with TMJ problems among other things........she was off work for a full 3 years. We probably saw 15 different medical professionals of all stripes before we got her some good help. It's a GD nightmare finding a good doctor.

Seems around here all they do is want to give you prescriptions; I'm sorry but I have a very piss poor opinion of the medical field. And my father was a doctor too. He was old school though, carried a black bag and did house calls. How times have changed.

[Smoker]

Very sorry to hear of your neck issues Smoker, all the best and I hope you get some good/better treatment. Concussions are no joke for sure. In January of 2013, my gf fell backwards on an icy sidewalk. She had a very bad concussion and wound up with TMJ problems among other things........she was off work for a full 3 years. We probably saw 15 different medical professionals of all stripes before we got her some good help. It's a GD nightmare finding a good doctor.

Seems around here all they do is want to give you prescriptions; I'm sorry but I have a very piss poor opinion of the medical field. And my father was a doctor too. He was old school though, carried a black bag and did house calls. How times have changed.

I agree. It's very hard for me to find a good doc, too (except for the ones I know from the OR).

One of the big problems is that docs that work for a huge corporation like Kaiser Permanente and many other hospitals, are not usually free to choose what treatment they will provide to the patient. There's a medication protocol, a treatment protocol, and a protocol for everything. Docs work according to their protocols, and that's it.

So, a lot of the time, it's better to choose a facility that provides the treatment you need. Then try to find out who is the best, or attending doc, at that facility. Again, it's very hard to get all the info up front.

Concussions are a bitch. I'm now riding every day to and from work, and doing 40 hours per week. No light duty at my job. I have to push patients in heavy ICU beds. Things are very challenging right now, but I kind of like it that way.

The neurosurgeon, who is a friend, recommended that I don't ride any more. Not because I could have another crash - because the physics of riding will make my neck injuries worse.

[hondaror]

Why don't you check out a good medical university and see what they offer? It could lead to something great. You never know.

[Smoker]

Why don't you check out a good medical university and see what they offer? It could lead to something great. You never know.

Because, it could more likely lead to a bad outcome.

I'm in pain, but have been doing at least two rides, almost every day.

Pain is not a proper indication for back or neck surgery. When I'm peeing or shitting on myself, can't stand up or walk, can't hold a tool in my hands due to numbness... those are reasons to have surgery.

My neck is so fucked up, physical therapy isn't really a good idea, either.

[hondaror]

You are shutting the door on a great possibility. Medical schools are usually up on the latest breakthroughs. The researchers are usually forward thinking doctors. Use them to your advantage as a possible opinion, or a network to a viable solution through an expert you would not normally be exposed to. Just trying to help.
Back and neck injuries take years to heal, as I'm sure you know. Activity and rest in balanced proportions are always preferred to surgery. Most good surgeons don't want to operate, if they don't have to. All the best Smoker!!!