Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
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Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Usually have stuff powder coated but it's thick stuff and makes the frame number hard to read etc
Also had a few frame repairs too and don't know if anymore will crop up , so not so sure now
Also had a few frame repairs too and don't know if anymore will crop up , so not so sure now
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
If you have more frame work to do in the future then paint it. Powder can be re-coated easily if you really had to as well. It sucks to strip from metal parts though.
Another oil style question in general. I powder since it allows you to work on the frame without having to worry OCD style about touching anything during re-assembly. It is a nice finish and piles of color options with very little work or time for prep. I know Rory will be in here as he doesn't like it as it can hide frame cracks (his opinion). I think simply the difficulty in reading the VIN is a poor reason to decide between the 2 finishes.
Another oil style question in general. I powder since it allows you to work on the frame without having to worry OCD style about touching anything during re-assembly. It is a nice finish and piles of color options with very little work or time for prep. I know Rory will be in here as he doesn't like it as it can hide frame cracks (his opinion). I think simply the difficulty in reading the VIN is a poor reason to decide between the 2 finishes.
Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Powdercoaters and blasters tend to be lazy Ive found. The blaster will turn up the power and hammer your parts and not care if they make holes in things or brackets get blown off, they just want an easy life and a fast job. Powdercoaters tend to load on the powder so its too thick, this ensures coverage in one go meaning less rework and complaints. When you couple all those together, you get a mess of a frame with hard to read frame numbers, but done properly it doesnt have to be like that.
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
I prefer paint for more reasons then I'd want powder. It's easier, more economical, easier to respray, easier to strip and inspect, and repair, and you don't subject the metal to the heat needed to powder. I have seen really bad wheel breakdown, that had been powder coated. People love the look, and durability of powder.
I ride hard, and I, personally, am not comfortable with the process on something that I'm riding hard on. I mean really, do you guys powder coat your women?
I ride hard, and I, personally, am not comfortable with the process on something that I'm riding hard on. I mean really, do you guys powder coat your women?
Rory
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
FWIW Powder is usually cured at 200DegC or close to, depending on the product.
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Do you paint your women?
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
not many would survive the curing process for powder...
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82 RD421LC Hybrid
82 RD350LC decapitation project
82 RD250LC JDM '251LC' YPVS
83 RZ350 Resto
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Absolutely, with body paint. So much fun.gpaddict wrote:Do you paint your women?
Rory
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1985 RZ350
9 1986-1990 RZ350s
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2005 749
2005 749 with 999 engine
Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Both are a viable option, each are comparable in price, I'm talking automotive (paint) done right.
Powder is far more durable though. Unless you crash it, if you do it now it's probable it will outlast you at this point.
The best favor you can do yourself is to use a (motorcycle specific) powder-coating shop, one whom specialises in customs or Harley's. You Likely will not have any problems.
People get into trouble when bargain shopping powder-coating, a shop that does patio furnishings, car parts, farm equipment and metal fencing generally will not produce the level of detail in application many bike owners would prefer.
Powder is far more durable though. Unless you crash it, if you do it now it's probable it will outlast you at this point.
The best favor you can do yourself is to use a (motorcycle specific) powder-coating shop, one whom specialises in customs or Harley's. You Likely will not have any problems.
People get into trouble when bargain shopping powder-coating, a shop that does patio furnishings, car parts, farm equipment and metal fencing generally will not produce the level of detail in application many bike owners would prefer.
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
I have been using some rattle can paint on my forks (LC and Triumph) and the stuff I use is good stuff
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This is UK so don't know how available it is overseas ?
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Gold Finger. The cups need to go, but very nice.
Rory
2 1984 RZ350s
1985 RZ350
9 1986-1990 RZ350s
2000 ST2
2005 749
2005 749 with 999 engine
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2005 749
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Re: Frame, Paint or Powder Coat
Its pretty much all there for you including some jokes haha.
If you do powder just make sure your very clear all holes must be plugged. The RZ frame is one of the more labor intensive since there are so many brackets.
Steel is not affected by a short amount of time at low temp. Aluminum should not be either. we are talking about 20 mins here at 200F not 24 hours or high temp...
If you do powder just make sure your very clear all holes must be plugged. The RZ frame is one of the more labor intensive since there are so many brackets.
Steel is not affected by a short amount of time at low temp. Aluminum should not be either. we are talking about 20 mins here at 200F not 24 hours or high temp...